
AI Summary: 4-Province Demerit → Suspension → Insurance (2026 ed.)
- Core threshold — ON / QC / AB full licence: 15 points = suspension; BC uses an independent DPP system.
- Novices stricter — ON G1/G2 only 4 pts; QC learner/probationary 4-8 pts; BC N 4 pts.
- Record retention — most provinces 2-3 years from conviction date (not offence date); BC keeps 5 years.
- Insurance impact — one minor over 3 years: $300-1,500; one major can trigger refusal.
- True cost = fine + 3-year premium hike + time, often 10-50× the fine.
Bottom-Line Conclusions
- 15-point threshold — same for ON/QC/AB full; BC scores via DPP separately.
- 4 points for novices — G1/G2/N: one major ticket = suspension.
- From conviction date — not offence date. Delaying trial doesn’t delay the clock.
- Insurance is the real pain — fine $250 vs. $3,000 in 3-year premium is normal.
- Demerit decay ≠ insurance decay — courses cut 3 pts (ON/AB) but keep insurance record.
1. 4-Province Demerit Threshold Comparison
| Stage | Ontario | Quebec | BC | Alberta |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Full warning letter | 6 pts | 7 pts | DPP $175+ | 8 pts |
| Full interview | 9 pts | 10 pts | — | — |
| Full suspension | 15 pts (30 days) | 15 pts (3-12 mos) | High DPP / 15 pts | 15 pts (1 mo) |
| Novice warning | 2 pts (G1/G2) | 2 pts | 2 pts | 4 pts |
| Novice suspension | 4 pts (30 days) | 4 (learner) / 8 (prob.) | 4 pts (N) | 8 pts (GDL) |
| Record retention | 2 yrs (from conviction) | 2 yrs | 5 yrs | 2 yrs |
2. Provincial Demerit Details (Common Offences)
2.1 Ontario (HTA)
- Distracted driving (phone): 3 pts + $615-3000;
- Following too close: 4 pts;
- Speeding 30-49 km/h: 4 pts; 50+: 6 pts (Stunt);
- Red-light / Stop: 3 pts;
- Failing to stop for school bus: 6 pts;
- Community safety zone speed 30+: 4 pts.
Retention: 3 years from conviction (insurance), 2 years for demerits.
2.2 Quebec (CSR)
- Distracted driving: 5 pts + $300-600;
- Speeding 11-20: 1 pt; 21-30: 2 pts; 31-45: 3 pts; 46-60: 5 pts; 61+: 10 pts (extreme);
- Red-light / Stop: 3 pts;
- School / construction zone: doubled.
SAAQ retention 2 yrs; insurers may see 5 yrs.
2.3 British Columbia (DPP)
BC uses Driver Penalty Points instead of a national-style demerit:
- Distracted driving: 4 pts + $368 + DPP $252 (first);
- Speeding: 3 pts + $138-483;
- 15-29 km/h: 3 pts; 30-39: DPP; 40+: Excessive Speeding = 7-day vehicle impound;
- N-licence: +25% fine.
ICBC retains records 5 years; insurance impact up to 10 years.
2.4 Alberta (TSA)
- Distracted driving: 3 pts + $300;
- Speeding 16-30: 3 pts; 31-50: 4 pts; 51+: 6 pts;
- Red-light: 3 pts + $405;
- Following too close: 4 pts;
- GDL: doubled fines.
Retention: 2 yrs from conviction; GDL records carry into full licence.
3. Insurance Impact (2026 First Payer Model)
| Severity | 3-yr premium hike | 3-yr extra cost | True cost (incl. fine) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Minor (≤30 over) | +10-15% | $300-900 | $500-1100 |
| Major (30+ / red / phone) | +25-50% | $1500-3000 | $2000-4000 |
| Serious (Stunt / careless) | +100% or refusal | $3000-8000 | $5000-15000 |
| DUI | Refusal → high-risk pool | $10000-25000 | $15000-30000+ |
2026 First Payer Model: whoever bears greater fault gets the premium hit first. Even if you’re not the registered owner, your driving record carries the consequence as the driver.
4. Real Cost Examples
Case A: Toronto, 35 km/h over
- Fine: $310;
- Demerits: 4 pts;
- Premium: $1800/yr → $2250/yr; 3-year extra $1350;
- True cost: $1,660 (5.4× the fine).
Case B: Vancouver, distracted driving
- Fine: $368;
- DPP: $252 (first) / $520 (2nd same year);
- Demerits: 4 pts;
- ICBC discount loss: 3 yrs × $400-800 = $1200-2400;
- True cost: $1,820-3,040 (5-8× the fine).
Case C: Montreal, 50 km/h over
- Fine: $580 (regular) / $1160 (construction);
- Demerits: 5 pts;
- SAAQ renewal surcharge: $50-150/yr × 3 yrs;
- Private insurance: 3 yrs $900-1500;
- True cost: $1,630-2,810.
Case D: Calgary, GDL novice red-light
- Fine: $405 (doubled = $810);
- Demerits: 3 pts (novice = 6, triggers 8-pt suspension);
- 30-day suspension + driver retraining $150;
- Insurance double 3 yrs: $3,000;
- True cost: $3,960+.
5. Suspension → Cancellation Path
| Province | 1st suspension | 2nd | 3rd |
|---|---|---|---|
| ON | 30 days | 6 months | Reinstatement hearing |
| QC | 3 months | 6 months | 12 months |
| BC | High DPP + assessment | 4-12 mo prohibition | Indefinite review |
| AB | 1 month | 3 months | 6 months+ |
6. Reduction & Reset Strategies
6.1 Defensive driving courses
- ON: CKD course removes 3 pts (once per lifetime);
- QC: no official reduction;
- BC: no official reduction (but insurers credit the certificate);
- AB: Defensive Driving removes 3 pts (every 2 yrs).
6.2 Fight first (always)
Successful fight = 0 pts + 0 insurance record. Even reduction to a no-points fine (e.g. ON HTA s.130) beats demerit course.
6.3 Time decay
2-5 years from conviction; record drops off the abstract. But insurers still pull CLEAR for 6-7 years.
7. Common Pitfalls
- “Demerit reset = insurance reset” — wrong; separate databases.
- “Move provinces / re-register clears it” — DMVs share data; CLEAR is national.
- “Delay trial past renewal” — partly works, but too long triggers default conviction.
- “Always reduce to no-points minor” — depends. HTA 130 careless = no points but major to insurers.
- “Switching insurers resets” — no; new insurer pulls CLEAR.
8. 60-Second Self-Check
- Current licence stage (G/G2/G1, N/L, GDL)?
- Cumulative points last 3 yrs?
- Convictions last 3 yrs (minor / major / serious)?
- Premium delta vs. clean record at same profile?
- Warning letter from SAAQ/MTO received?
- Course taken / eligible?
- Next renewal date?
- New ticket within 15-day fight window?
- Fight cost vs. insurance hit — which dominates?
- Need pro evaluation?
SiLaw True-Cost Calculator: 3-Year Demerit Loss
Upload ticket + current premium screenshot — AI estimates 3-year true cost (fine + insurance + time) in 60 seconds and recommends Fight / Course / Pay.
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